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In case anyone else cares, both files are downloadable from this page: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_15511#install_win Go to where it says "download the standalone installer." John Gorentz At 09:44 AM 7/7/2005, John Gorentz wrote: >Thanks! I've downloaded them and will see how I do. I wasn't able to find the flashplayer7_win.exe one on Macromedia's web site, though. That one I got from another university's web site. I would rather get one that has a known provenance, so I may take you up on your offer. > >John > >At 08:37 AM 7/7/2005, Chris Wolf wrote: >>Like you, we keep our own copies of full installers for most of these things, storing them on a network share and doing all our installs from there rather than over the web. >> >>For some programs, it can be tricky to find the full download, and I recall Flash Player being one of them. What we have (downloaded in April) are flashplayer7_winax.exe, which is the installer for IE (the "ax" means ActiveX), and flashplayer7_win.exe for Netscape/Firefox. >> >>If you want, I could look at the Macromedia site again and figure out how I got to those. I think there was a link to more information or perhaps a "trouble downloading?" link that eventually got me to the full installer. I suspect if you poke around a little more at their site you'll be able to find them. Of course, I would email them to you if you want. >> >>At 05:08 PM 7/6/2005, John Gorentz wrote: >>>I'm trying to get Macromedia Flash 7 installed on some of our "locked-down" computers (Windows 2000). >>> >>>I have a policy of never doing installs over the web, because that way I have no control over the exact version that I'm installing. I might violate that policy if I go about it carefully enough, but in general I think it's a bad way to manage software. I want to have the installation file for everything I install, so I can re-do it if it should become necessary. >>> >>>Macromedia's web site says you can sign a license agreement and then they will give you a means to install it internally on your intranet. I presume but do not know for sure that that means they'd give me an executable installation file. However, their license agreement contains a rather vicious clause, saying that when they send me subsequent updates, that I must promise to install them "as soon as practical." I suppose there is enough latitude in the definition of "practical" to meet any reasonable requirements I have, but that's a nasty way of doing business. >>> >>>There is a file floating around called flash7installer.exe. It will put a file in the IE plugin folder, but it doesn't make flash work. I presume it does some mucking with the registry, too. >>> >>>I'm comfortable operating my computer as a Flash-free zone, and in fact would prefer to. But I don't always get to do things the way I prefer. >>> >>>I am not completely out of ideas, but I'm wondering if anyone else is as cranky as I am about this issue and has come up with a solution. >>> >>>John Gorentz >>>W.K. Kellogg Biological Station >>> >>>Slogan: Down with Flash and fascism! Up with literacy and democracy! >> >> >>--Chris >>============================================== >>Chris Wolf Computer Service Manager >>Agricultural Economics [log in to unmask] >>Michigan State University 517 353-5017