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Another approach - instead of treating the act of downloading music like a plague, teach them where to look for legal downloads. Artists are increasingly becoming aware of the creative commons license (http://creativecommons.org/) which still preserves the copyright, but allows individuals to distribute and make derivative works thereon as long as they give credit to the original authors. By targeting the works distributed under this license an individual could get that free music they want and not be breaking any laws. Granted you're not going to find anything from Metallica... There still is a huge amount of material available. I wonder if there is a P2P tool that only distributes these types of IP yet? -----Original Message----- From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Margaret Wilson Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:25 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Acceptable Use Question: P2P File Sharing Apps Heheh, thanks Rich. I know the "ethics" argument won't win. So I'm using a two-pronged approach -- DMCA and AUP. If $2500 and a year in prison for each violation is not enough to discourage her, then perhaps the threat of possibly losing her Internet access is. :-) Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Wiggins" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Acceptable Use Question: P2P File Sharing Apps > A few years ago, when Chuck Severance and I were still doing our TV > show, I interviewed 4 MSU students about file sharing -- then it was > all about Napster. In the course of a one hour interview, I tried and > tried to get them to "get it." I asked if you'd written a book of > great poetry or recipes, and you discovered that the entire book was > up on the Web, wouldn't you take umbrage? > > Grudgingly a couple of them accepted that maybe pride of authorship > and intellectual property rights were real, important considerations. > But they still planned to download music. > > This was years ago. Margaret, your niece has grown up believing that > if you can find it on the Net, it's free. If you succeed in your > educational mission, I'll donate $50 to your favorite charity. :-) > > /rich > > PS -- Never mind the AUP, I think federal copyright law and > specifically DMCA are fearsome enough. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On >> Behalf Of Margaret Wilson >> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:39 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: [MSUNAG] Acceptable Use Question: P2P File Sharing Apps >> >> A friend's daughter is into sharing music using WinMX, which I've >> recently >> learned is one of these P2P file-sharing apps. Off course, she's using >> it >> for sharing copyrighted music. They have dial-up access via MichNet >> through >> one of the school systems. My question is, is there anything in the >> Acceptable Use Policy which prohibits such use? I'll read the policy if >> need be, but I was wondering if anyone knows off the top of their heads. >> ?? >> >> Thx! >> >> Margaret