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Does the mail.msu.edu use port 465 or 25 for SMTP? The documentation says to use 465, but I usually end up using port 25 because you can not send messages when it is set to 465. I just setup an IMAP for mail.msu.edu and had to change STMP port to 25. You are unable to send if you use 465 in an IMAP configuration. If I use pop3, I first need to set SMTP to 25 (secure SSL). After about four weeks I need to change it to SMTP 465 (SSL) because for some unknown reason it will not send on port 25. These problems have been going on for months. I am sure several students will have difficulties setting up mail.msu.edu if they follow the documentation at help.msu.edu. Andrew McCormack [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>