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Speaking of home routers, occasionally my linksys router (not wireless)
goes into a state where the red diag light is on and I have to unplug
it.  I never had to do that before.  The only difference now is that I
don't have it plugged into a Monster Power Home Theater power strip
since I moved the TV.  It doesn't do it as much now either since
Consumers fixed the loose Neutral I discovered I had at my house, but it
does still do it.

Those Monster Power Home Theater power strips, while they have the hefty
price tag, actually filter the power. It gets rid of various
interference and filters the electrical power.  A UPS would also filter
the electrical power.

I was amazed at the amount of hum I would get when I would plug in the
VCR to my capture card on the computer.  I'd also get video interference
with small bright strips moving slowly through the video.  I could also
get rid of all of this hum, and video lines by eliminating the ground on
the equipment with one of those 2 prong adapters, but that is the wrong
and unsafe way to do that.

As for laser printers, we have actually fixed some of the strange
problems we had with them by simply plugging them into the outlet
directly, and not with a surge surpressor/power strip.  I can imagine
that even the newer ones still do a big power draw, especially
considering how hot the fusers get.

All in all I wouldn't doubt that interference in the electrical power
would cause any of these Wireless problems, based on the problems that I
have had.

Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Richard Wiggins
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 5:52 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Laptops, Wi-Fi, Problems, Troy Murry

I thought about the laser printer possibility but I couldn't imagine
how it'd put out enough RF to nuke the Wi-Fi signal.  But I do know
from tormenting the guy in the next office that when the heating
element on my laser printer goes off, it causes his flourescent lights
to flicker.  We put a meter on it and saw a tremendous spike when it
does the re-heat.  Maybe if a laser printer is on the same circuit as
the access point the power draw is causing the problem?

The energy conservation folks on campus say that older laser printers
left on 24/7 are a huge component of MSU's electric bill.

/rich

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 16:26:50 -0400, Clifford Beckett <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Hi Troy,
> That is a very interesting problem. From your description,  I would
say the
> problem has to be with one of the pieces of equipment that was moved
with
> the office from the old building to the new one.    I would look at
the
> copy machines and faxes etc. These devices have heater bars and
thermal
> controllers which cycle on and off on a regular basis.   Turn every
> electronic device you can off except the wireless laptops and see if
the
> problem goes away.
> Let us know what happens?
> Cliff
>
> Clifford L. Beckett
> Electronic Systems Designer
> Michigan State University
> A411 E. Fee Hall
> E. Lansing, MI 48824
> office 517-355-4659
> cell 517-749-4308
>