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My SMTP server was set to use Mail.msu.edu.  It seems that Outlook 2003
is changing the errors from the MSU SMTP server into a "bounce e-mail."
I tested this in the following ways:

1) added the account "Mail.msu.edu" to my existing Outlook profile and
sent the message through the Mail.msu.edu using the "Accounts" drop-down
box in Outlook 2003.  I received a "bounce e-mail."  This method should
send messages through Mail.msu.edu instead of through my Exchange
server, but after your e-mail I wasn't convinced so I went to step 2.

2) Create a new Outlook 2003 profile under my existing Windows user
account.  This profile knows nothing of my Exchange settings.  I get the
same format of bounce message.

3) Log in to my PC as a test user, create the Outlook profile to use
Mail.msu.edu.  Same format of bounce message.

4) Create a new test user that does not have an Exchange account.  Log
in, create Outlook profile, send test message.  Sesame format of bounce.

5) Configure Netscape 7.1.  Send test message.  Here I got some lame
pop-box that only showed the first bad address.

It seems clear from these tests that it's Outlook 2003 that's generating
the "bounce e-mail" from the Mail.msu.edu errors, not another SMTP
server.  This is cool because the mail client can show the whole error
message received from the server instead of having to chop it up to be
shown in a pop-box.



-Jeff




-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Symanzik [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 1:30 PM
To: Jeff Bowes
Cc: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Question for email gurus

That looks like you are using another system as your smtp server.
When your mail server forwards the message to mail.msu.edu, it generates
a bounce from the errors mail.msu.edu returns.

If you use mail.msu.edu directly, it sounds like most clients will give
up after the first error.

--
Ed Symanzik
MSU Mail Team
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Jeff Bowes wrote:
> Either the issue John refers to has been corrected in the last 20
> minutes or Outlook 2000 shows some strange information.  My tests with

> Outlook 2003 (the mail client everybody should use) give me an error
> message that shows ALL of the bad addresses I attempted to send
> messages to.
>
> Example:
> The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
>
>       [log in to unmask] on 3/26/2004 1:17 PM
>             550 unknown user [log in to unmask]
>
>       [log in to unmask] on 3/26/2004 1:17 PM
>             550 unknown user [log in to unmask]