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All, It is my understanding that the ports are only being blocked on Residential Halls not Academic Buildings. If you are still having trouble in a Academic building please post your ip number or send it to me directly and I will look through the logs on afs.msu.edu. Also on a side issue if you are going to use the ftp solution you may want to consider using ftp:[log in to unmask] or ftp://username@afs rather than pilot.msu.edu since pilot is already under strain and scheduled for retirement in the future. /sd -- Steve Devine Core Systems Michigan State University 110 Computer Center East Lansing, MI 48824-1042