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Russell is correct in saying that the kernighan mailbox is a throwaway one. Here's a response I sent directly to Chris yesterday -- should've sent it to the whole list: Upgrade will copy your mailbox, folders, and aliases from Pilot to mail.msu.edu, and set Pilot to forward all mail to mail.msu.edu. It will also activate your account on mail.msu.edu. Kernighan will be untouched and you will still be able to log in and use it. I've done quite a bit of sending messages back and forth between kernighan and the new system. Messages that you have stored on kernighan will get orphaned there. You'll end up having to move them manually. What I did was, after upgrading, I set up a separate kernighan IMAP account in my mail client and then copied my messages from the kernighan folders elsewhere. Eventually we'll scrub kernighan. We'll warn everyone before we do it. It's at least a couple months down the road. Jim Green Manager, Technical Services MSU Computer Laboratory 517.355.4500 ext. 176 [log in to unmask] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell J. Lahti" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:47 PM Subject: Re: mail.msu.edu pre-release > To my knowledge you have to use SSL/TLS with your IMAP session, and > direct it to use port 993. The standard port 143 is not open for > unencrypted IMAP access. > > -Russell > > Quoting John Alan Valenti <[log in to unmask]>: > > > hi Chris, > > > > Hopefully someone more informed will chime in, but I think the kernighan > > mailbox is just supposed to be a throwaway one. I'd been using it, but only > > by forwarding a copy of messages from Pilot. Since I could never figure out > > IMAP use with it, I just used the web interface on kernighan to avoid TWIG. > > (for the first few months of the beta test, I did use POP - that was fine) > > > > Anyway, last night I converted my Pilot mailbox over. Took about 11 minutes > > for 40 folders and 5600 messages (about 60MB). Seemed to work fine. I can > > still get into Pilot, but there is an email message there reminding me not > > to use it. And I can still get into Kernighan, but no new mail is being > > delivered there for me, since I turned off forwarding. > > > > I've been stuck using the web interface today (resisting POP, and still > > can't figure out IMAP). The new web mail interface seems fine to me. > > > > (If anybody could throw me a hint on IMAP use with the new system, I would > > sure appreciate it!) > > -jav > > > > Chris Wolf writes: > > > > > Related to this--I don't understand what is supposed to happen to the > > > accounts for those of us who set up test accounts on kernighan. Do we > > > have > > > to convert again to get on the final production system? Thanks. > > > > > > At 12:50 PM 3/17/2003, you wrote: > > >> The MSU Computer Laboratory would like to invite interested IT staff to > > >> help > > >> us test the new email system by upgrading during our pre-release/final > > >> testing period this week. > > >> > > >> Caveats: > > >> > > >> a) note we are tracking a serious issue with Eudora -- we have not been > > >> able to send mail with Eudora using the new system. This appears to be a > > >> client issue, as other POP/IMAP clients do not have the problem. There > > >> are > > >> a couple of other issues with Eudora, too, but this is the most serious. > > >> > > >> b) we can't handle a cast of thousands here, so if we get an > > >> overwhelming > > >> number of requests we may elect to decline some of them. > > >> > > >> Those who are interested should send an email to Ed Kryda, at > > >> [log in to unmask] He will reply with instructions for access to the > > >> upgrade > > >> module. > > >> > > >> Questions or comments may be submitted via the web-based contact form > > >> (http://contact.cl.msu.edu/contact.php?service=mail), or directed to me. > > >> > > >> Jim Green > > >> Manager, Technical Services > > >> MSU Computer Laboratory > > >> 517.355.4500 ext. 176 > > >> [log in to unmask] > > > > > > > > > --Chris > > > ============================================== > > > Chris Wolf Computer Service Manager > > > Agricultural Economics [log in to unmask] > > > Michigan State University 517 353-5017 > >