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This doesn't protect you from attacks that originate from with the MSU network. That's where most of the ones that I log come from. Jesse Howard ________________ Information Systems Michigan State University Press [log in to unmask] msupress.msu.edu -----Original Message----- From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lee Duynslager Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:03 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: BlackICE > Putting a "firewall" on the machine that winds up protecting > itself is something of a bad idea. A firewall really wants to > be an entity which has all the packets in the network flowing > past it, where it makes determinations about them. I agree with this. I think that the M.S.U network security should have a firewall in place for the whole university, at the connection to Internet and Internet 2. Lee Duynslager