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CSSAMSU January 2013

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How to Foresee Career Fate

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Judy Chung <[log in to unmask]>

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              How to Foresee Career Fate                                      Peter Chen 
    (Source: http://bbs.creaders.net/education/bbsviewer.php?trd_id=809865)

Most
 PhD students do not realize that their career fates in US or 
industrialized countries are often determined on the day they have their
 PhD advisors. Typically, an average PhD candidate in a US university is
 intelligent enough to become a CEO of a company, a wall-street trader, 
or a professor in a US research university. However, most PhD graduates 
will not end up at their desirable jobs, even if they work very hard. In
 fact, many top university PhD graduates cannot find decent jobs in US, 
while many people who earn their PhD degrees from median universities 
become professors, industrial leaders, CEOs, etc. Many PhD students are 
misled by the rankings of universities and rankings of undergraduate 
colleges. An essential fact is that in this top level of professional 
trainings, it is one’s PhD advisor, rather than one’s university, that 
determines one’s career future.        For a health and hard-working PhD candidate, one
 can foresee his/her career fate by the job statistics of one’s PhD 
advisor’s former PhD graduates. For a senior professor who has produced 
more than 10 PhD graduates, the job statistics is quite accurate. If 75%
 of the former PhD graduates are currently professors in research 
universities, then an average current student in the group will most 
likely end up as a professor in a research university in the future too.
 Similarly, if 75% of the former PhD graduates cannot find jobs, then an
 average current student in the group will most likely become unemployed
 on the day of his/her graduation. Note that for chemistry, physics, 
mathematics, computer science, etc, one can find a list of one’s former 
group members at genealogy webpages: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_genealogy.       Additionally,
 if one’s PhD advisor is a very senior professor who is near the end of 
his/her career, one has to pay a close attention to the job statistics 
of recent PhD graduates in the past 5 years. Very often, such a senior 
professor is in a rapidly decaying (old) field and does not have the 
energy and knowledge to move to a new field (why bother if one is going 
to retire in 5 years?). Then, his/her current students will be most 
likely to face more difficulties in finding desirable jobs than group’s 
statistics would suggest. There are exceptions, though --- some true 
researchers always enjoy new ideas and new fields. However, such senior 
professors are few and far between.               On
 the other hand, if one’s PhD advisor is a junior professor who has not 
yet produced enough PhD graduates to offer a good statistics, then there
 is more uncertainty. Sometimes, an excellent student can help shaping 
the advisor’s career profile in this situation. A good thing is that the
 junior professor usually works hard and tries to get his/her tenure. 
However, in general, a junior advisor offers less help in your career 
development. In this case, the ranking of one’s university may play a 
more important role in one’s job hunting.        If
 you are a foreign PhD student, you actually should use the 
aforementioned job statistics with caution because it is not applicable 
to you directly. It is typically more difficulty for a foreign PhD 
student to find a desirable job in US, such as a faculty position, than 
one’s American lab-mates. Typically, to offset one’s culture and 
language disadvantages, foreign PhD students need to put about threefold
 more effort to achieve the same career goals. For example, if it takes 
about 4 papers for an average America PhD student to find a faculty job,
 an average foreign PhD student may have to produce more than 10 papers 
of the same quality to find a similar faculty position. Therefore, one 
should pay more attention to the statistics of former foreign PhD 
graduates in the lab, which is more suitable for one’s case.    
    If
 one cannot find all data for the statistics of one’s advisor’ former 
PhD graduates, one can check a couple of other crucial indicators, 
namely, advisor’s publication record and grant record. Publication 
record can be easily found at ``Web
 of Science’’. One should pay a close attention to the publication in 
the last five years, which are roughly equivalent to the publication 
period of a student with his/her advisor.  If
 a PhD advisor publishes only about 3 papers with each of his/her 
typical PhD student and the number of papers for a successful job seeker
 on the job market is 10, the PhD candidate will have a difficulty to 
fulfill his/her job goal with such an advisor.         Note
 that one’s career development depends crucially on one’s advisor’s 
academic status, reputation and connection. A minimal requirement for an
 advisor to be a qualified one is that he/she should regularly have 
external research grants in his/her career, except for people in some 
disciplines such as social sciences and liberal arts where federal 
research grants might be rare.  This is not an issue for a 
PhD candidate who is supported by a research assistantship (RA) from 
his/her advisor. On the other hand, if one is, or is going to be, 
supported by a teaching assistantship (TA) from one’s department, one 
has to watch out pitfalls. Many advisors might never have any external 
grant, which means their academic statuses are very low in their fields.
 Typically, by playing local politics, these advisors are able to have 
PhD students either as their cannon fodders or as their career savers 
(Be aware that people who are inactive in research usually have more 
time to play politics). Unfortunately, these advisors might deliberately
 conceal partial or full information from their (potential) students. 
However, it is quite easy to do an ``Award Search’’ in public domains to
 find out an advisor’s grant situation. The National Science Foundation 
(NSF) and National Health Institute (NIH) are among the most respected 
funding agencies. There are some other useful indications of academic 
status: committees of professional organizations and conferences, 
editorial boards of international journals, and panels of federal 
funding agencies. In fact, NIH study section members are in public 
domain. Typically, a PhD candidate’s career is on a dead-end track if 
his/her advisor’s academic status is very low.  To avert this fate, one should either switch to a qualified advisor or change a school as soon as possible.       Finally,
 a good advisor is typically willing to spend time on his/her students, 
cares about his/her students’ career development, responses to students’
 needs and first of all, has a superb job record for his/her former PhD 
graduates. However, what contributes to a good advisor is a complicated 
and subjective issue. A good PhD advisor for one student might not be a 
good one for another person.  The last word is that it 
makes no sense to spend about four or five years to pursue a PhD degree 
if it does not lead you to a decent career.    
    
    The above discussions are personal opinions and might not be useful or suitable to many people. 


 		 	   		  
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