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Subject:

Re: Collaboration Option "D" - Other

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Peter Cole <[log in to unmask]>

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Peter Cole <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:07:54 -0500

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We should ask what sort of load we are looking at, as it could have
significant impact on what software is pursued.  My end-user experience with
vBulletin for instance suggests that it tends to struggle under a heavy load
(take into account: the version in question is 2.0.x and simultaneous load
right now are ~4,500 users, things may have been greatly improved with
v3.x).

-----Original Message-----
From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Timothy Woods
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:09 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Collaboration Option "D" - Other

Good points all,

In conjunction with NAG, I think a collaboration tool such as vBulletin
would be on of the better solutions to help take the load off of MSUNAG for
continuing discussions and documenting solutions. Chat definitely has some
advantages of getting an instant reply. Although using IRC might not be the
most productive way to spend time, it seems that conversations often get
sidetracked and end up taking much longer than looking for a solution at a
forum. In addition the same questions might get repeated in a real time
environment with no means to research the chat communications.  

As far as Angel it seems a bit awkward and limited to use for a forum of
this type. Another possible concern with ANGEL could be its lifespan on
campus. 

What ever is decided I agree with Timo that security should be at the
forefront of anything that is implemented.

Timothy Woods
Information Technology Professional
Michigan State University
School of Social Work and Department of Anthropology
254 Baker Hall, East Lansing, MI 48824
517-432-2195
[log in to unmask]



-----Original Message-----
From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Willson, Jim
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 8:23 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Collaboration Option "D" - Other

I agree with Michael, having these messages pop up in my Inbox is very
convenient. If I have to go 'looking' for the NAG I probably will
forget. 

Jim Willson
Information Technology Services
The Eli Broad College of Business
Michigan State University
517-432-2184


-----Original Message-----
From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Surato, Michael S.
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:59 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Collaboration Option "D" - Other

This debate has come up before. There once was a discussion of moving
the NAG list from a listserv to Angel. On one hand we had a faction that
wanted to move away from e-mail as that would free that resource.
However, there was a large group that wanted to maintain the "push"
technology of e-mail. The comprimise was to continue the listserv but
add a tag to the subject for easy filtering.

I am very much against moving technical discussions away from a "push"
technology to any form of forum that I would have to remember to go
visit. What I like about IRC/Instant Message is that the lag from e-mail
is removed, and a more lively discussion can take place. It is also a
push technology, and I do not have to visit a forum. Asyncronous
communication is also important, but for a different reason. But even
so, it should continue to be a "push" technology or people will become
too busy to visit the forum.

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|      Michigan State University            |
|            320 Linton Hall                |
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-----Original Message-----
From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Peter J Murray
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 1:19 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Collaboration Option "D" - Other

To complicate things a bit.

PHPbb3 is now gold and out. http://www.phpbb.com vBulletin 3.7 will be
adding several SWAP like features. 
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=249460
Being added: thread tagging, user created groups, improved member
profile page, and more.

As evidenced by the flurry of messages on NAG after the meeting, despite
votes to the contrary, it seems that asynchronous communications are
important to the group, and a forum would be a great way to keep our
respective mailboxes clean, and still engage in lively discussions. As
someone else mentioned, it would do 80% of what we want.

Peter Murray
James Madison

Ehren Benson wrote:
>
> Troy,
>
> What I mentioned was PHPbb3 (version 3). This is an option that's on 
> the same functional level of Vbulletin, however offers (I think) more 
> features both for administrators, moderators and users. Of course the 
> other benefit is it is open source. It also has built in LDAP and 
> other directory connect ability. As I mentioned RC8 of it just came 
> out December 1, so the full version should be available sometime late 
> this month or in January.
>
> I would love to see a forum at least spring out of this that may be a 
> bit more user friendly than an email list, and given the fact that 
> something of its nature is fairly simple to get going that even if 
> it's not the top rank could rank high in the ease of implementation.
>
> I too was surprised that there were so many "other" votes and not many

> "other" options brought forward when the floor was opened up.
>
> /Ehren
>
> Ehren J. Benson, MCSE
>
> *Windows Systems Administrator*
>
> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>
> 517-355-9200 x2569
>
> *From:* MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
> *On Behalf Of *Troy Murray
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:07 PM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* [MSUNAG] Collaboration Option "D" - Other
>
> This morning at the MSU IT Exchange we were shown three collaboration 
> tools, vBulletin, SWAP and Angel. During the voting we were asked 
> which one we'd choose, along with an option "D - Other". As I 
> remember, there were a number of votes for "D - Other", but when it 
> was opened up to suggestions there was only one, PHPvB I believe.
>
> This lead me to wonder why "D - Other" was voted so much; was it 
> because what was seen in the three solutions wasn't liked, because it 
> was felt there is a better solution but not sure what it is or felt 
> there is a better solution but were hesitant to mention it during the 
> session?
>
> Just curious what your thoughts were.
>
> --
> Troy Murray
> Developer
> Michigan State University
> Biomedical Research and Informatics Center (BRIC) 100 Conrad Hall East

> Lansing, MI 48824
> Phone: 517-432-4248
> Fax: 517-353-9420
> E-mail: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Calendar HTML - 
> http://www.icalx.com/html/troymurray72/month.php?cal=BRIC+Work
> iCalendar - http://www.icalx.com/public/troymurray72/BRIC%20Work.ics
>

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