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MSUNAG January 2006

Subject:

Re: New web site comments

From:

Chris Wolf <[log in to unmask]>

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Chris Wolf <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:44:37 -0500

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I realize the following doesn't fully solve the problem you and John are
having, but...

1) MSU's new home page generally follows better design practices than the
other ones you are having trouble with. Specifically regarding font sizes,
the registrar's site has font sizes specified in absolute measurements
(pixels in this case), which to a great extent reduces the user's control
over their view of the page. Most designers feel that it's better to use
relative font sizes because it gives more control to the user. MSU's new
home page uses relative sizes. So my view is that the registrar's site is
more to blame than MSU's new site for the fact that you have to change your
browser settings. Again, I realize this just gives you a different target
for blame, without solving your problem.

2) If it's an option for you, consider using Firefox or Netscape instead of
IE. They (and some other browsers such as Opera) have a true "text zoom"
feature which gives better font resizing on almost any web page without
having to change your browser settings the way you have to in IE. I would be
really surprised if IE 7 doesn't include a comparable feature, so another
option would be to wait for it to come out.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: MSU Network Administrators Group 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Byers, Sharon
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:26 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] New web site comments
> 
> The problem is that changing the text size from the View menu 
> doesn't work on all websites, for example our current RO 
> website, whereas the Accessibility method does. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wolf, Chris [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:12 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] New web site comments
> 
> The warning about obsolete browsers does not refer to IE6; 
> it's talking about much older versions.  Although IE6 has a 
> few minor CSS bugs, its support of CSS is generally very good.
> 
> When you're viewing CSS pages, the "ignore font sizes..." may 
> not be the best method for getting larger fonts on the 
> screen. Have you tried leaving the "ignore font sizes" 
> unchecked and using View, Text Size to make the text larger? 
> This method works on both the old and new MSU pages.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MSU Network Administrators Group 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> 
> > Behalf Of Byers, Sharon
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:48 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] New web site comments
> > 
> > I see this message in the status for the new website.  I 
> reported the 
> > same accessibility problem John mentions below, except that 
> I'm using 
> > SP2.  I hope this doesn't mean we're just out of luck!
> > 
> > "Because of problems with their support for cascading sytle sheets 
> > (CSS), some obsolete web browsers may have cosmetic problems 
> > displaying sites that use CSS, including MSU's new site. The 
> > recommended solution is to upgrade to a current browser version."
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Gorentz [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:37 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: [MSUNAG] New web site comments
> > 
> > I'm going to post some comments about MSU's new web site here.  I'd 
> > use the on-line form for providing feedback, but that form 
> insists on 
> > my providing a ranking of a whole bunch of things before 
> it'll let me 
> > submit my comments.  I hardly ever participate in doing rankings on
> > surveys like that.   They're not going to provide the 
> recipients with
> > useful information, so why should I waste my time on them?   
> > It hurts my
> > head to try to squeeze my opinions into a 1-5 ranking.   And 
> > besides, I
> > didn't even have opinions on all the items that form asks about.  
> > 
> > My comment is based on a look at the home page only.   The 
> > following is
> > what I tried to submit before I saw that the form wasn't going to
> > cooperate:
> > 
> > I don't think users with visual difficulties are going to 
> like the way
> 
> > the menu on the left overlaps the text.  I use
> > IE6 SP1 with the accessibility feature, "Ignore font 
> sizes...".  I use
> 
> > this option because most web pages use fonts that are too small for
> > comfort.   I've
> > taken a screen shot of the results and have put it on my 
> personal web 
> > site for you to look at.  It's at 
> > http://www.johngorentz.com/pix/msupage.jpg
> > 
> > There were no such problems with the old web page.   
> > 
> > I like the color scheme on the old one better, too.   After 
> all, it's
> > supposed to be "Go Green! Go White!", not "Go Green! Go Grey!"
> > 
> > John Gorentz
> > W.K. Kellogg Biological Station
> > 
> 

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